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	<title>Comments on: New Income Inequality Data: Surprising and Frightening</title>
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	<description>Why Income Inequality Matters</description>
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		<title>By: cfaman</title>
		<link>http://itcouldhappenhere.com/blog/frightening/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>cfaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted the below at Economist&#039;s View, seems relevant.  

There are some pieces you can add up to create inequality expectations.

Housing is likely a $8 trillion loss versus 2006 by when the bottom occurs. Subtract this from the balance sheets of the bottom 90% of the income distribution. I would suggest $100,000 on average. (You may notice there&#039;s hardly any data on net worth by income, and that&#039;s now crucial to understanding where inequality is going.) This $100k loss puts the majority of people into $0 net worth.

Investments declined a lot, subtract this from the top 10%, but this is on its way back, and will likely reach former nominal values well before housing does.

In terms of Gini, the loss of housing equity and the recovery of securities losses will result in a huge jump. Any guesses? I&#039;m guessing about 0.05. Unsuspecting economists will have to change their underwear.

But, we&#039;re not done. We&#039;ve got some really large figure designated to guarantee debts and other financial system rescue programs in addition to a relatively small figure spent on stimulus. The big one (what is it, $12.8tr, $15tr, $18tr? I&#039;ve seen lots of estimates, but it&#039;s big.) flows onto the big balance sheets as the guarantees are exercised and losses avoided. So wealth is preserved at the top, decimated at the bottom. The income from the preserved wealth flows onto the largest income statements. Maybe $13tr at 5% gets you $650b in preserved income in the top 10%.

I mean, it&#039;s bad now, but it&#039;s bound to get much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the below at Economist&#8217;s View, seems relevant.  </p>
<p>There are some pieces you can add up to create inequality expectations.</p>
<p>Housing is likely a $8 trillion loss versus 2006 by when the bottom occurs. Subtract this from the balance sheets of the bottom 90% of the income distribution. I would suggest $100,000 on average. (You may notice there&#8217;s hardly any data on net worth by income, and that&#8217;s now crucial to understanding where inequality is going.) This $100k loss puts the majority of people into $0 net worth.</p>
<p>Investments declined a lot, subtract this from the top 10%, but this is on its way back, and will likely reach former nominal values well before housing does.</p>
<p>In terms of Gini, the loss of housing equity and the recovery of securities losses will result in a huge jump. Any guesses? I&#8217;m guessing about 0.05. Unsuspecting economists will have to change their underwear.</p>
<p>But, we&#8217;re not done. We&#8217;ve got some really large figure designated to guarantee debts and other financial system rescue programs in addition to a relatively small figure spent on stimulus. The big one (what is it, $12.8tr, $15tr, $18tr? I&#8217;ve seen lots of estimates, but it&#8217;s big.) flows onto the big balance sheets as the guarantees are exercised and losses avoided. So wealth is preserved at the top, decimated at the bottom. The income from the preserved wealth flows onto the largest income statements. Maybe $13tr at 5% gets you $650b in preserved income in the top 10%.</p>
<p>I mean, it&#8217;s bad now, but it&#8217;s bound to get much worse.</p>
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		<title>By: New Income Inequality Data: Surprising and Frightening &#187; New Deal 2.0</title>
		<link>http://itcouldhappenhere.com/blog/frightening/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>New Income Inequality Data: Surprising and Frightening &#187; New Deal 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The article, which then discussed the Census statistics that led to this conclusion, failed to mention that the Census Bureau considered the differences between 2007 and 2008, with regard to economic inequality, statistically insignificant. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The article, which then discussed the Census statistics that led to this conclusion, failed to mention that the Census Bureau considered the differences between 2007 and 2008, with regard to economic inequality, statistically insignificant. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
		<link>http://itcouldhappenhere.com/blog/frightening/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is truly a compelling article i&#039;d like to share. please fix the slew of invalid links.   i look forward to reading the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is truly a compelling article i&#8217;d like to share. please fix the slew of invalid links.   i look forward to reading the book.</p>
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